The National Archives’ HR, finance and payroll software applications

FOI request reference: CAS-145730-V3F0D7
Publication date: October 2023

Request

1. Which Human Capital Management (HCM) or HR system do you use?
2. What is the value & expiry date of your current contract/licence? What are the extension options?
3. How many HR system users do you have?
4. Which Finance systems do you currently use?
5. What is the value & expiry date of your current contract/licence? What are the extension options?
6. How many finance system users do you have?
7. Which Payroll systems do you currently use?
8. What is the value & expiry date of your current contract/licence? What are the extension options?
9. How many Payroll system users do you have?
10. Do you outsource your payroll? If so who do you partner with?
11. How many employees do you have?
12. What is your annual revenue?
13. Are your systems on premise or SaaS cloud based?

Outcome

Some information provided

Response

1. Which Human Capital Management (HCM) or HR system do you use?

Disclosing software systems, product names, vendors and versions may reveal information that would prejudice the prevention or detection of crime and is exempt under section 31 (1) (a) of the FOI Act.

2. What is the value & expiry date of your current contract/licence? What are the extension options?

Information regarding our contracts valued over £10,000 plus VAT is exempt under Section 21 of the FOI Act as it is already in the public domain. To assist you in locating this information, please review the links below:
Tenders and contracts – The National Archives
Contracts Finder – GOV.UK
Information on any live contract valued under £10,000 plus VAT would expose commercially sensitive information, and as such is exempt under Section 43 (2) of the FOI Act.

3. How many HR system users do you have?

The National Archives has 15 HR system users.

4. Which Finance systems do you currently use?

Disclosing software systems, product names, vendors and versions may reveal information that would prejudice the prevention or detection of crime and is exempt under section 31 (1) (a) of the FOI Act.

5. What is the value & expiry date of your current contract/licence? What are the extension options?

Information regarding our contracts valued over £10,000 plus VAT is exempt under Section 21 of the FOI Act as it is already in the public domain. To assist you in locating this information, please review the links below:
Tenders and contracts – The National Archives
Contracts Finder – GOV.UK
Information on any live contract valued under £10,000 plus VAT would expose commercially sensitive information, and as such is exempt under Section 43 (2) of the FOI Act.

6. How many finance system users do you have?

The National Archives has 13 Finance system users.

7. Which Payroll systems do you currently use?

The National Archives does not use a Payroll system.

8. What is the value & expiry date of your current contract/licence? What are the extension options?

Information regarding our contracts valued over £10,000 plus VAT is exempt under Section 21 of the FOI Act as it is already in the public domain. To assist you in locating this information, please review the links below:
Tenders and contracts – The National Archives
Contracts Finder – GOV.UK
Information on any live contract valued under £10,000 plus VAT would expose commercially sensitive information, and as such is exempt under Section 43 (2) of the FOI Act.

9. How many Payroll system users do you have?

None.

10. Do you outsource your payroll? If so who do you partner with?

Yes, we outsource our Payroll services.

Disclosing software systems, product partners, names, vendors and versions may reveal information that would prejudice the prevention or detection of crime and is exempt under section 31 (1) (a) of the FOI Act.

11. How many employees do you have?

The National Archives currently has 604 employees.

12. What is your annual revenue?

For this information, please refer to the annual report and accounts on our website available here Annual report and accounts 2022–23 highlights (nationalarchives.gov.uk)

13. Are your systems on premise or SaaS cloud based?

Our systems are both on premise and SaaS based.

Explanatory annexe

Exemptions applied

Section 31: Law Enforcement

We are unable to provide you with information regarding software applications because this information is exempt from disclosure under section 31(1) (a) of the FOI Act. Section 31(1) (a) exempts information if its disclosure would or would be likely to prejudice the prevention or detection of crime.

Section 31 is a qualified exemption and we are required to conduct a public interest test when applying any qualified exemption. This means that after it has been decided that the exemption is engaged, the public interest in releasing the information must be considered. If the public interest in disclosing the information outweighs the public interest in withholding it then the exemption does not apply and the information must be released. In the FOI Act there is a presumption that information should be released unless there are compelling reasons to withhold it.

The public interest has now been concluded and the balance of the public interest has been found to fall in favour of withholding information covered by the section 31(1)(a) exemption. Considerations in favour of the release of the information included the principle that there is a public interest in transparency and accountability in disclosing information about government cyber security. However, release of this information would make The National Archives more vulnerable to crime. The crime in question here would be a malicious attack on The National Archives’ computer systems. As such release of this information would be seen to prejudice the prevention or detection of crime by making The National Archives’ computer system more vulnerable to hacking. There is an overwhelming public interest in keeping government computer systems secure which would be served by non-disclosure. This would outweigh any benefits of release. It has therefore been decided that the balance of the public interest lies clearly in favour of withholding the material on this occasion.

Further guidance on section 31 can be found here:  https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/foi-eir-and-access-to-information/freedom-of-information-and-environmental-information-regulations/section-31-law-enforcement/

Section 21: Information readily available to the applicant by other means

Section 21 of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA) does not oblige a public authority to provide information if it is already reasonably accessible by other means. In this case the exemption applies because the information is already available.

Further guidance can be found here: https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/foi-eir-and-access-to-information/freedom-of-information-and-environmental-information-regulations/section-21-information-accessible-to-the-applicant-by-other-means/

Section 43 (2) – Commercial Interests

This section exempts information whose disclosure would be likely to prejudice the commercial interests of any person. In this case, the exemption applies because it would be likely to harm or prejudice the commercial interests of our current and potential future suppliers.

Section 43 (2) is a qualified exemption and we are required to conduct a public interest test when applying any qualified exemption. This means that after it has been decided that the exemption is engaged, the public interest in releasing the information must be considered. If the public interest in disclosing the information outweighs the public interest in withholding it then the exemption does not apply and must be release. In the FOIA there is a presumption that information should be released unless there are compelling reasons to withhold it.

Considerations in favour of the release of the information included The National Archives’ commitment to openness and transparency in its commercial activities, to allow public scrutiny and to demonstrate that public funds are being used in an efficient and effective way. Furthermore, private sector companies engaging in commercial activities with the public sector must expect some information about those activities to be disclosed.

Considerations against disclosure included the recognition that disclosure is likely to provide information to direct competitors within the market that would create an imbalance and a commercial advantage to those competitors. Furthermore, disclosure of this information is also likely to affect The National Archives’ ability to negotiate contracts in the future and consequently generate revenue from non-public funds. It is also considered that disclosure would be likely to deter potential bidders for future contracts from competing and sharing commercially sensitive information with us. This would outweigh any benefits of release. It was therefore decided that the balance of the public interest lies clearly in favour of withholding the material on this occasion.

Further guidance can be found here: https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/foi-eir-and-access-to-information/freedom-of-information-and-environmental-information-regulations/section-43-commercial-interests/