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Folder icon  ESCHEATED LANDS in ULSTER.  MS 613, p. 147  1619

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Former reference: MS 613, p. 147

2 Pages.

Supplementary information: Calendar of the Carew Manuscripts preserved in the Archiepiscopal Library at Lambeth, ed. J. S. Brewer & W. Bullen (6 vols., 1867-73), vol. V, document 212.

Contents:
"I have in the book before written set down all the particulars of Escheated lands in Ulster now to stand."
1. By particulars there are in British families 6,215 men, and upon occasion, 8,000 men, of British birth and descent for defence, though the fourth part of the lands is not fully inhabited.
2. By particulars there are now built upon the counties of Ardmagh, Tirone, Donagall, Fermanagh, Cavan, and Londonderrie, 107 castles with bawns, 19 castles without bawns, 42 bawns without castles or houses, 1,897 dwelling-houses of stone and timber, after the English manner, in townredes, besides very many such houses in several which I saw not, and yet there is great want of buildings both for townredes and otherwise.
Many English do not yet plough nor use husbandry, being fearful to stock themselves with cattle or servants for those labours. Neither do the Irish use tillage, for they are also uncertain of their stay. So by these means the Irish, using grazing only, and the English very little, and were it not for the Scottish, who plough in many places, the rest of the country, might starve. By reason of this the British, who are forced to take their lands at great rates, live at the greater rents paid to them by Irish tenants who graze.
If the Irish pack away with their cattle, the British must either forsake their dwellings or endure great distress on the sudden; yet the cohabitation of the Irish is dangerous. The greatest number of Irish dwell upon the lands granted to the city of London, which happens two ways:
First, there are 5 proportions assigned to the several companies, not yet estated to any man, in the hands of agents, who finding Irish more profitable than British, are unwilling to draw on the British, persuading the companies that the lands are mountainous and unprofitable, not regarding the future security of the whole.
Secondly, the other 7 of the proportions are leased for 61 years, and the lessees affirm that they are not bound to plant English, but with what people they list. Neither is the city of London bound to do it, by their patents as they say. And by these two occasions the British now here, who have built houses at their own charges have no estates, which is such a discouragement that they are minded to depart; and without better settlement will go elsewhere. Wherein it is fit the city have direction to take a present course, that they may receive their assurances. These are the inconveniences, which in this service I have observed further than was set down formerly by Sir John Bodley.
Signed: Nicholas Pynnar.
Copy.


No further details   Appointment by John le Botteler, Earl of Ormond, lord of the liberty of Tipperary, of Edmund FitzJames FitzWilliam FitzPeter le Botteler, as seneschal of the said liberty, and grant of the moiety of the office of marshal [of the same]. Clonmell 7 June, 41 Hen. VI.  MS 613, f. 26  [n.d.]
No further details   Grant by Henry VII. to James Ormond, knight for the King's body, of the manor of Ardmulghum, the patronage of the church of Ardmulghum, and the lordships of Belgard, Fovre, Demor, and Derver, in co. Meath; of lands in Callan, Loghmeran, Ratheston, and other places in co. Kilkenny; and of the lands and tenements called the Earl's Grove, Kilmorarussyn, and the Old Mill, near Clomell, with all the King's lands in co. Tipperary; the premises being parcel of the possessions of the Earl of March, of which the King is seized in right of his consort, Queen Elizabeth, to hold in tail male. Canterbury, 10 Sept., 10 Hen. VII. By authority of Parliament.  MS 613, f. 28b  [n.d.]
No further details   "A note of such lands as Peers Butler, Earl of Osserie, and James Lord Butler his son, took by lease for term of years from Dame Anne St. Ledger, widow, and Dame Margaret Bullen, widow, (daughters and co-heirs unto Thomas Butler, late Earl of Ormond,) Thomas Lord Rochford, son and heir to Dame Margaret Bulleyne, and Sir George St. Ledger, knight, son and heir to Dame Anne St. Ledger; which said lands were then in the possession of the said ladies and their sons aforesaid in anno 20, regni Regis Henrici Octavi, viz.;"--the castle and manor of Kilkenny (rent, 200 marks Irish); the royalties of cos. Kilkenny, Tipperary, and Ormond; the manor and castle of Knoctopher (rent, 200 marks Irish); the manor and castle of Ballygarren (ditto); manor of Thorles (rent, 200 kine); the manor and castle of Dunmore; the manors of Puberafe, Portlerafe, and Killinalle, in co. Kilkenny; the country of Woney Mubrian; the manor and castle of Carrigne-Griffin, and "the two Ormonds" in co. Tipperary; and the manor and castle of Grenagh in co. Waterford.  MS 613, f. 29b  [n.d.]
No further details   "A brief collection of the life of Hubert Walter, Archbishop of Canterbury, and brother to Theobald Walter, the ancestor to Butler Earl of Ormond, collected out of a book entitled, "De antiquitate Britannioe Ecclesioe." [By Archbishop Parker.]  MS 613, f. 30  [n.d.]

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