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Folder icon  The LORD DEPUTY'S second advice concerning the plantation of Longford and O'Carroll country.  MS 613, p. 89  1618

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Former reference: MS 613, p. 89

2 Pages.

Supplementary information: Calendar of the Carew Manuscripts preserved in the Archiepiscopal Library at Lambeth, ed. J. S. Brewer & W. Bullen (6 vols., 1867-73), vol. V, document 205.

Contents:
If his Majesty resolve to make estates in fee farm, according to the cost of plantation in other places used, I pray their Lordships to peruse the former project I sent the last summer, and consider the advice therein set down for the grounds of distribution. That it may please his Majesty and their Lordships, upon notice of the exact quantities subject to division now sent, that his Majesty would declare how much land he would have divided amongst undertakers, servitors, and natives; to how many persons he will grant the same, and of what quantities they shall consist. But if his Majesty shall resolve to grant all the escheated lands in lease, as well to natives as to British and servitors, in that case I pray their Lordships to take into consideration these things following:--
1. That his Majesty may out of a general quantity set apart such portions as shall be thought fit to give satisfaction, for the rent of 200l. a year paid to Mr. Malbye; and the six score rent beeves paid to the manor of Granard; to the end that his Majesty's fee farmers and lessees may be freed from the distresses and extortions of other men.
2. That proportion being set apart how much of the residue shall be leased to natives, and how much to British undertakers and servitors.
3. Of the portion to be appointed to natives, whether it will not be fit to grant every principal native his dwellinghouse and a reasonable demesne thereunto in fee farm, and the residue in lease, without which all buildings now being an omission will decay and none will be added; and the same course to be held for British undertakers and servitors.
4. What quantities his Majesty will be pleased to lease to the several persons, as well natives as British, &c., and therein consideration to be had of the former advices, for it will be ill to lease much to any.
5. To appoint where the plantation of the British shall be in each county, either towards the English pale or towards the Irish, and whether his Majesty will not think fit to continue some of the principal men in the castles which themselves have built.
It is to be observed in the certificate of the quantities of land now sent over, that only the two qualities, viz., arable and pasture and profitable woods, are to pass as valuable lands; all the rest are of little value and to pass at smaller rates. What shall be imposed upon the patentees of fee farms, or leases towards the defraying of the admeasurement and other charges necessarily to be disbursed about the work of plantation, and whether the whole charges be laid upon them by small contribution for the saving of his Majesty's charge. What rent shall be ratably laid upon each acres, as well good as bad, and how much upon fee farmers that are to build, and how much upon farmers for years. For what terms the leases shall continue. That a caveat be given, that none of the lands forleased shall be passed upon any books in fee farm or fee simple, else the course of the plantation may be overthrown. What directions their Lordships will give for the measuring of the county of Leytrim, McCoghlan, and O'Mulloyes countries, and the residue of those escheated lands, and when their Lordships shall be pleased it shall begin ?
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No further details   Appointment by John le Botteler, Earl of Ormond, lord of the liberty of Tipperary, of Edmund FitzJames FitzWilliam FitzPeter le Botteler, as seneschal of the said liberty, and grant of the moiety of the office of marshal [of the same]. Clonmell 7 June, 41 Hen. VI.  MS 613, f. 26  [n.d.]
No further details   Grant by Henry VII. to James Ormond, knight for the King's body, of the manor of Ardmulghum, the patronage of the church of Ardmulghum, and the lordships of Belgard, Fovre, Demor, and Derver, in co. Meath; of lands in Callan, Loghmeran, Ratheston, and other places in co. Kilkenny; and of the lands and tenements called the Earl's Grove, Kilmorarussyn, and the Old Mill, near Clomell, with all the King's lands in co. Tipperary; the premises being parcel of the possessions of the Earl of March, of which the King is seized in right of his consort, Queen Elizabeth, to hold in tail male. Canterbury, 10 Sept., 10 Hen. VII. By authority of Parliament.  MS 613, f. 28b  [n.d.]
No further details   "A note of such lands as Peers Butler, Earl of Osserie, and James Lord Butler his son, took by lease for term of years from Dame Anne St. Ledger, widow, and Dame Margaret Bullen, widow, (daughters and co-heirs unto Thomas Butler, late Earl of Ormond,) Thomas Lord Rochford, son and heir to Dame Margaret Bulleyne, and Sir George St. Ledger, knight, son and heir to Dame Anne St. Ledger; which said lands were then in the possession of the said ladies and their sons aforesaid in anno 20, regni Regis Henrici Octavi, viz.;"--the castle and manor of Kilkenny (rent, 200 marks Irish); the royalties of cos. Kilkenny, Tipperary, and Ormond; the manor and castle of Knoctopher (rent, 200 marks Irish); the manor and castle of Ballygarren (ditto); manor of Thorles (rent, 200 kine); the manor and castle of Dunmore; the manors of Puberafe, Portlerafe, and Killinalle, in co. Kilkenny; the country of Woney Mubrian; the manor and castle of Carrigne-Griffin, and "the two Ormonds" in co. Tipperary; and the manor and castle of Grenagh in co. Waterford.  MS 613, f. 29b  [n.d.]
No further details   "A brief collection of the life of Hubert Walter, Archbishop of Canterbury, and brother to Theobald Walter, the ancestor to Butler Earl of Ormond, collected out of a book entitled, "De antiquitate Britannioe Ecclesioe." [By Archbishop Parker.]  MS 613, f. 30  [n.d.]

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